Talk:You

Teddywithfangs Comments

Ok, first off, if Ben Moody said that, then why does it keep saying he? I find it more likely that Amy said it about Ben rather than Ben was hard on himself.

Secondly, do we have any other source for this rumor besides a defunct message board and a bunch of fan pages? You, know, like Amy actually saying something on the evboard? Or in a magazine? Or anything?

Everyone sources the same source, and conveniently enough it is dead.--Teddywithfangs 22:07, 9 December 2006 (PST)

The "he" referenced in the Ben Moody post is Brad Caviness of Bigwig Enterprises. I obtained this information from Gabe Harrell, the original webmaster of the Exodus Evanescence site. It can also be corroborated by a Google search.

See: Comment by Insane_Cranium_Dude on Leo's Lyric Database (captured image of page) and "Forbidden" Evanescence song? thread on snopes.com (captured image of page).

I also updated the main article to help explain why we do not have a link to the original source of the information. --DhammaSeeker 20:40, 10 December 2006 (PST)

A thread full of various theories does not prove any one true.

All I see are a bunch of "she saids" with no real quotes, which makes it all heresay. Posting "I heard, I heard" everywhere does not make a fact be; if Amy isn't saying anything, why are "fans" so eager to put words in her mouth?

And it's easy to coorborate a lie; how many sites are there saying there was no moon landing or Holocaust?

Google searches prove nothing. Or would you rather believe Hitler and Evanescence have a tie? A Google search for Hitler + Evanscence yields 203,000 hits. [1]

I just think it's a big to-do about nothing. The only ones making a big deal about it are the ones looking for reasons to discriminate against other Evanescence fans. What's the point?--Teddywithfangs 20:30, 11 December 2006 (PST)

Ben Moody made the request in 2003 that the song 'You' not be downloaded by fans. Since that time, no contradictory request has been made from him or any other member of Evanescence. Teddywithfangs, you're free to believe and do what you want on your own time and property, but there will be no sanctioned discussion of that song on any Evanescence site I'm operating. --DhammaSeeker 19:02, 12 December 2006 (PST)

Undermosa Comments

I noticed on the user talk page for Eacz12 that you inquired about updates to the page for You. Please send me the edits you request to be made to the page, and I will consider whether to add them to the wiki. Thank you! DhammaSeeker@gmail.com DhammaSeeker (talk) 09:25, 26 December 2023 (PST)

Hi! Yeah, sorry for the late reply, User:DhammaSeeker. Please let me know if you see this reply as I'm not sure how to notify a user here. There are a few things on that page that isn't supported by any reputable source and that are false.

1) "You is a personal song attributed to Amy Lee originally intended for a select few people" - According to who is it attributed to Amy Lee? Amy Lee never commented on this song. The only person who ever commented on it was Ben Moody, and Ben's comment didn't mention Amy anywhere. There's also no source that it's a "personal song". The page shouldn't say that it's "a personal song attributed to Amy Lee" because there's no source for that. We also have no source on who wrote the song. Nearly all songs in the early Evanescence days were co-written by Amy and Ben, so, unless there's a reputable source stating who wrote the song, the page shouldn't just claim that the song was by Amy or attributed to Amy.

2) "Talking about this song in the Evanescence fan community is the fastest way to become persona non grata" - Why is this here? This is just a person's opinion and there's no source for it.

3) "the band asks fans not to download" - The band has never commented on this song, only Ben Moody. This sentence also shouldn't be on the page.

Based on the only information available, the page should only state that It is a pre-Fallen song, it is not on Amy Lee's BMI.com repertoire, Ben Moody's comment on it, and the brief info on what The Original Exodus Evanescence Board was. Anything else is just any fan's personal assumptions. --Undermosa (talk) 19:22, 7 February 2024 (PST)

Hi Undermosa, this is confirmation that I have read the reply above. You are free to add your commentary on the Talk:You page, but I will not be changing the content of the main You page at this time. Thank you! DhammaSeeker (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2024 (PST)

DhammaSeeker, the Talk:You page can't be edited, it's locked. It just says "view source". May I ask why you're not making any corrective edits to the You page? Like I said, it has false and made up content that no one from Evanescence ever said. Why wouldn't you want to remove the false content? It's misleading for anyone that reads it. --Undermosa (talk) 02:55, 9 February 2024 (PST)

OK I will copy this conversation to the Talk:You page. Why? Because I own this domain and website. DhammaSeeker (talk) 07:04, 9 February 2024 (PST)