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| The logo reverted when you updated the wiki to the new version. [[Image:gyakusetsu54M.png|50px]]<sup>[[User Talk:Gyakusetsu|Talk]]~[[Special:Contributions/Gyakusetsu|Contributions]]</sup> 05:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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| == Controversy ==
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| Hi Dhamma, here is Ana talking about some bad things that I've noted started to grow all over the articles.
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| When I asked you if I could be part of the contributing communities here, I was really carefull about all the things that I could or not change and the stuffs that could really improve this wiki, like my first contribution, The Art of The Open Door. The translation into portuguese is something really slow because me and Raphael (the other brazilian guy helping), you know, have a life. But I've understood since the beggining the importance of being real here, to take down legends and to show to anyone how big fans we are.
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| The problem is that the free thing, the free account, is making problems to the ones that look for a source here. Besides the spammig problem, there are controversy informations in some articles, like the old doubt about the beggining of Good Enough, if it is part of Together Again, and the Imaginary from Mystary having the Fallen Tourniquet end or not.
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| You know, people can edit and they do, I'm just reporting something that I don't know if the adms know. Some fans don't read the whole conversation in old topic foruns, they just get a thing in a fansite and start doing the ''cultural spam''. It is not something that we can control in fact, because it is part of the freedom that the internet gave to us, and those things from Richard Dawkins... Sorry, I'm not trying to be intelligent or anything else, but what I mean is that this kind of free-problem is natural, but we can solve here. My suggestion is that the articles get an "approvement". If the editted text gets confirmed by someone that knows the truth, it can be on air. My suggestion is kinda hard because, I know, adms have a life too! I can't seem to find another solution, wish I could.
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| I hope all the adms can solve this problem, sorry for the long text.[[User:Immortalessence|Immortalessence]] 18:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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| ::This IS a problem, but that's why admins and mods are here... We're ready to correct any mistaken text that is written on the pages. As far as spamming is concerned, the problem grows bigger and bigger. Unfortunately I had to delete 5-6 pages in three days because they were irrelevant with the Evanescence Reference and its object. I'm afraid there's nothing we can do.
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| ::I'm sorry to say that I don't agree with this "approval system" you're suggesting, just because the staff don't know everything. We're not able to know everything about Evanescence. We let anyone write whatever they want and then we check if the information is valid or not.
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| ::But if we think that some info is invalid and someone else knows that it's 100% valid, there will be no ability to learn from them that it is valid, so the info is totally lost. I hope you understand what I'm saying... --[[User:Gt|gt]] 16:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ::Thank you for your thoughts, Ana/Immortalessence. You state the problem well. An open wiki has many benefits while at the same time having many drawbacks. I have agree with gt though. Approving content changes before they are published would create an undue burden on the admin staff and potentially put a chilling effect on those wanting to make contributions. If we see someone has added controversial or debatable content to a page, perhaps an edit should be made making it clear that the information is ''controversial or debatable'' while leaving in the user's contribution. On the topic of spam, if it's becoming unwieldy again, perhaps we need to look into implementing some kind of higher scrutiny before new accounts are activated? --[[User:DhammaSeeker|DhammaSeeker]] 17:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I really appreciate your answers, I'm really glad :) So, I've got the problem with the approval system. It is something that I haven't thought already, and I agree now with you both. In fact there is a "system" to solve this, that are the ''Talk'' pages. No one gets there, really. It is good in a way because it has not to be a forum but today it gets just stuck. I mean, we need a kind of add poiting to the Talk pages, but not one that makes it a forum. Is it a good idea if we create a page with reportings, like [[Reporting Articles]] where we, common users, can list the topics and the reason why we are posting them to this? Maybe it can have a link to the Talk page so it gets more constant in our minds. Can it be a good thing? Well, I just hope that won't start the ''not-kind conversation'' that we use to see in foruns. Maybe we should use the [citation needed] more times. And the higher scrunity about the spams are good! [[User:Immortalessence|Immortalessence]] 19:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == User List ? ==
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| Hello Dhamma =)
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| Before I registered here I saw a page that had a list of all users, but now can't find it! Can you help me, please? :) [[User:EvanescenceGirl|EvanescenceGirl]] 16:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I think this is what you're looking for: [[Special:Listusers|User List]] --[[User:DhammaSeeker|DhammaSeeker]] 16:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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| Thanks a lot! [[User:EvanescenceGirl|EvanescenceGirl]] 17:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == Lithium Single ==
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| See[http://evanescencereference.info/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Lithium_Single]... My Immortal [Love 4u] 12:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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| == Sally's Song pre-listening ==
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| hey!!
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| im !!eVan!! im from mexico and obviously a fucking big evanescence fan!
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| as u know Amy has been made a cover for the new NIGHMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAZ soundtrack, so while the cd come out, on disney's website there are a lil' bit of the songs.
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| this is the url [http://disneymusic.disney.go.com/albums/nightmarerevisited.html]
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| i hope it helps u!
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| !!eVan!!
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| ==Italian in The Evanescence Reference== | |
| Hi I'm Italian and I'd like to help this wiki transalating the pages in Italian. But I don't know how to do it (and IF i can do it)... Let me know if you are interested in my proposal... And if so tell me how to do! Thanks - My Immortal [Love 4u] 10:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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| :Please [http://evanescencereference.info/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerard_armando&action=edit§ion=new contact Gerard Armando] for guidance on how to start a new translation. Grazie!
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