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	'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender" /> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender" /> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the soundtrack of ''The Punisher'' and in their album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name="Punisher">{{cite web\|last=D'Angelo\|first=Joe\|title=First Song From New Drowning Pool Lineup On 'Punisher' LP\|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485338/20040225/story.jhtml\|work=MTV.com\|date=February 25, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20040603160405/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485338/20040225/story.jhtml\|archivedate=June 3, 2004}}</ref><ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity. Shaun later stated that the duet was a record label's decision, not the band's.<ref name=fasterlouder>{{cite web\|title=Seether feels the cold\|url=http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/5323/\|work=Faster Louder\|date=July 18, 2006\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20121011051304/http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/5323/\|archivedate=October 11, 2012}}</ref>

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addiction in August ~~2006~~. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addiction in July 2006.<ref name="rehab">{{cite news\|last=Harris\|first=Chris\|date=July 26, 2006\|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1537141/seether-frontman-enters-rehab-tour-canceled.jhtml\|title=Seether Frontman Enters Rehab; August Tour Dates Canceled\|work=MTV News\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110401181513/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1537141/seether-frontman-enters-rehab-tour-canceled.jhtml\|archivedate=April 1, 2011}}</ref> His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="mtvinspsober">{{cite news\|last=Harris\|first=Chris\|date=August 10, 2006\|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1538267/amy-lee-reveals-inspiration-behind-sober.jhtml\|title=Evanescence Set For Fall Tour; Amy Lee Reveals Inspiration Behind 'Sober'\|work=MTV News\|accessdate=August 18, 2013\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20060822161132/http://www.mtv.com:80/news/articles/1538267/20060809/evanescence.jhtml\|archivedate=August 22, 2006}}</ref><ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:

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Band Members

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	==Band Members==		==Band Members==
	~~===Current===~~
	*[[Shaun Morgan]] – lead vocals, guitar (1999–present)		*[[Shaun Morgan]] – lead vocals, guitar (1999–present)
	*Dale Stewart – bass guitar, backing vocals, acoustic guitar (2000–present)		*Dale Stewart – bass guitar, backing vocals, acoustic guitar (2000–present)
	*John Humphrey – drums, percussion (2003–present)		*John Humphrey – drums, percussion (2003–present)
	*Corey Lowery – lead guitar, backing vocals (2019–present; touring 2018–2019)		*Corey Lowery – lead guitar, backing vocals (2019–present; touring 2018–2019)

	~~===Former===~~
	*Johan Greyling – guitar (1999)
	*Tyronne Morris – bass guitar (1999–2000)
	*David "Dave" Cohoe – drums, backing vocals (1999–2002)
	*Nick Oshiro – drums (2002–2003)
	*Pat Callahan – lead guitar (2002–2006)
	*[[Troy McLawhorn]] – guitar, backing vocals (2008–2011)

	==Trivia==		==Trivia==

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	[[Image:Seether.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|'''Seether''']]		[[Image:Seether.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|'''Seether''']]
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	'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender"~~>{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https:~~/~~/web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref~~> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender" /> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

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	[[Image:Seether.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|'''Seether''']]		[[Image:Seether.jpg\|thumb\|right\|250px\|'''Seether''']]
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	'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from ~~2003~~-2005. The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	Seether ~~are~~ known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance ~~addition~~ in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addiction in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:
	{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. (July 18, 2007 [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song [[Breakdown]]:		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':
	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

			However, Morgan revealed in a 2013 interview that ''Breakdown'' was about his break-up with Amy Lee, saying "she was very much an inspiration for that song, but she's also been the inspiration for other songs, as well, which are not quite as current."<ref name="songfacts">{{cite web\|last=MacIntosh\|first=Dan\|title=Shaun Morgan of Seether : Songwriter Interviews\|url=https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/shaun-morgan-of-seether\|work=Songfacts\|date=May 6, 2013}}</ref>

	In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band New EVANESCENCE Album Gets Release Date; Guitarist TROY MCLAWHORN Rejoins Band] - June 13, 2011</ref>		In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band New EVANESCENCE Album Gets Release Date; Guitarist TROY MCLAWHORN Rejoins Band] - June 13, 2011</ref>

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	Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "I lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling."</ref>		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:

Octopia: Amy did say most of the songs are about the break-up, now with source directly from Amy's words.

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Amy did say most of the songs are about the break-up, now with source directly from Amy's words.

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	Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]''.		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "I lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling."</ref>

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:
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	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

	In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band]</ref>		In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band New EVANESCENCE Album Gets Release Date; Guitarist TROY MCLAWHORN Rejoins Band] - June 13, 2011</ref>

	==Band Members==		==Band Members==

Undermosa: Amy didn't say the relationship inspired other songs, the writer of the article assumed that

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Amy didn't say the relationship inspired other songs, the writer of the article assumed that

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	Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]]~~, and their break-up inspired other songs on~~ ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref>		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]''.

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:
	{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':		Shaun said about the song [[Breakdown]]:
	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

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	'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2003-2005.		'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2003-2005. The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	~~The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed~~ their ~~name after a request by their new label,~~ [[~~Wind-Up Records~~]], to ''~~Seether~~'' ~~before releasing their first full-length~~ album~~, ''Disclaimer'~~'.		Seether are known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	~~Seether are known~~ for their ~~collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]]~~ in [[~~Broken~~\|'~~'Broken''~~]], ~~included in the album~~ ''~~Disclaimer II~~''. ~~The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity~~.		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref>

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> He now is out of rehab.		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:
			{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}
	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007 ~~(October 19 in South Africa)~~. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any ~~song in response to Call Me When You're Sober~~:
	{{quote\|~~There isn't necessarily a response as~~ there's a ~~lament~~. ~~I was bummed~~ out. I ~~was really upset that she would say~~ and ~~do those~~ things. ~~In any relationship,~~ I don't ~~think it~~'s ~~right to say~~ and ~~do those things when~~ people ~~break up~~, and ~~she obviously felt the need~~ to ~~go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole~~. ~~What can I do?~~ I just ~~refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me~~ on the ~~street~~ and ~~referring to that song. But~~ I ~~didn't feel the need to write back~~ and ~~be mean~~.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':
	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

	~~This is what Morgan had to say about Evanescence:<blockquote>'''Examiner:''' Has the label wanted you to work with Amy again because that collaboration was so successful for them?<br><br>~~		In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band]</ref>

	'''Morgan:''' I don't think we would work together again, not while Seether and Evanescence are two separate entities. At this point, the label understands how I feel about that and wouldn't force the issue, and they could very easily. They have more respect for us as people than that and that's great.</blockquote>

	In September 2008, Evanescence ~~tour~~ guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''~~, before leaving Seether~~ a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-~~joining~~ Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band]</ref>

	==Band Members==		==Band Members==

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	The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	~~Their song "Hang On" was included in the [[Daredevil Soundtrack\|''Daredevil'' soundtrack]].~~

	Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	[[Shaun Morgan]] went to rehab for ~~unspecified reasons~~ in August 2006. His ~~apparent struggle with~~ addictions and how it affected Amy and ~~Shaun's~~ relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> He now is out of rehab.		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addition in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> He now is out of rehab.

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to [[Call Me When You're Sober~~\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]~~:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to Call Me When You're Sober:
	{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':
	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

	~~The first single off the latest album, ''Fake It'', has reached #1 in the U.S. Mainstream Rock chart.~~

	This is what Morgan had to say about Evanescence:<blockquote>'''Examiner:''' Has the label wanted you to work with Amy again because that collaboration was so successful for them?<br><br>		This is what Morgan had to say about Evanescence:<blockquote>'''Examiner:''' Has the label wanted you to work with Amy again because that collaboration was so successful for them?<br><br>
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	'''Morgan:''' I don't think we would work together again, not while Seether and Evanescence are two separate entities. At this point, the label understands how I feel about that and wouldn't force the issue, and they could very easily. They have more respect for us as people than that and that's great.</blockquote>		'''Morgan:''' I don't think we would work together again, not while Seether and Evanescence are two separate entities. At this point, the label understands how I feel about that and wouldn't force the issue, and they could very easily. They have more respect for us as people than that and that's great.</blockquote>

	In September 2008, Evanescence tour guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined ~~the band~~ while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with ~~them~~ on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray'', before leaving ~~the band~~ a couple of months before its release and ~~soon afterwards he~~ re-~~joined~~ Evanescence, recording guitar on the 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref>		In September 2008, Evanescence tour guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray'', before leaving Seether a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joining Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band]</ref>



	==Band Members==		==Band Members==
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	*Pat Callahan – lead guitar (2002–2006)		*Pat Callahan – lead guitar (2002–2006)
	*[[Troy McLawhorn]] – guitar, backing vocals (2008–2011)		*[[Troy McLawhorn]] – guitar, backing vocals (2008–2011)

	~~==Discography==~~
	*''Fragile'' (2000) [Published under band name Saron Gas]
	*''Disclaimer'' (2002)
	*''Disclaimer II'' (2004)
	*''Karma and Effect'' (2005)
	*''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' (2007)
	*''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray'' (2011)
	*''Isolate and Medicate'' (2014)
	*''Poison the Parish'' (2017)
	*''Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum'' (2020)

	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
	*[[Josh Freese]], the studio drummer ~~for~~ Evanescence on [[Fallen\|''Fallen'']], also played drums on Seether's album '''Disclaimer''<nowiki/>'.		*[[Josh Freese]], the studio session drummer on Evanescence's [[Fallen\|''Fallen'']], also played drums on Seether's album '''Disclaimer''<nowiki/>'.

	~~==Links==~~
	*[http://www.seether.com Seether's Official Website]
	*[http://www.myspace.com/seether Seether's myspace page]

	==Notes and References==		==Notes and References==
	{{ref}}		{{ref}}
	[[Category: Related artists]]		[[Category: Related artists]]

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	The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

			Their song "Hang On" was included in the [[Daredevil Soundtrack\|''Daredevil'' soundtrack]].

	Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	[[Shaun Morgan]] went to rehab for unspecified reasons in August 2006. His apparent struggle with addictions and how it affected Amy and Shaun's relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]. He now is out of rehab.		[[Shaun Morgan]] went to rehab for unspecified reasons in August 2006. His apparent struggle with addictions and how it affected Amy and Shaun's relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> He now is out of rehab.

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' in October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]:
	{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':

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	'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from ~~2003~~-2005. The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		'''Seether''' is the name of the band that supported [[Evanescence]] in their tour in 2004. [[Shaun Morgan]], the lead vocalist and a guitarist of the band, dated [[Amy Lee]] from 2004-2005.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> The band's origin is South Africa, where it was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

	Seether ~~are~~ known for their collaboration with Amy in [[Broken\|Broken]], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether is known for their collaboration with Amy in ''[[Broken\|Broken]]'', included in the album ''Disclaimer II''.<ref name=sptimes>{{cite web\|last=Orloff\|first=Brian\|title='Music is my therapy'\|url=http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|work=St. Petersburg Times\|date=May 13, 2004\|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050225035148/http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/13/Weekend/_Music_is_my_therapy_.shtml\|archivedate=February 25, 2005}}</ref> The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance ~~addition~~ in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>		Shaun Morgan went to rehab for substance addiction in August 2006. His addictions and how it affected Amy and their relationship is the main subject in Evanescence's [[Call Me When You're Sober\|Call Me When You're Sober]] from ''[[The Open Door]]'', and their break-up inspired other songs on the album.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref><ref name=>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=txTT3FcHCoAeSDSS&t=300&v=AHwToDfOik8&feature=youtu.be Amy Lee - Iceberg Radio Interview 2006 Full]: "A lot of the songs were coming from the turmoil in our relationship and how I was feeling, but I wrote about a lot of other things too."</ref>

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007. According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any songs about Amy Lee:
	{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|If there are any references on the disc about a failed relationship, Morgan said it will be about his most recent ex and not Lee. "These songs are turning out to be somewhat more introspective, which is weird -- you'd assume I'd be more pissed off and have more things to say," he explained. "I don't know how much I want to say and what I want to say. It's tough, because I know what the expectations are for this album and that people will be looking for that Amy Lee reference, and I am trying desperately not to have any. I just ended another truly, truly horrible relationship with somebody, so if there's anything about somebody on the record, it would be about her, not Amy. In retrospect, Amy and I, at our worst moments, were still better than this last girl and I at our best moments."<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. (July 18, 2007 [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song [[Breakdown]]:		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':
	{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}		{{quote\|It isn't an aggressive song, and it isn't even an angry song — I would prefer to refer to it as a lament rather than an angry backlash. You couldn't tell that the song was about one person. It's probably more universal. I prefer to be a little more vague and respectful. There are some things I could have said and done too — there are always two sides to every story. And if anything, the song says, 'Fine. Go ahead and say those things.' But what's the point of telling my side? That's what the bloodthirsty want, and I don't care what the bloodthirsty want.<ref name="Interview"/>}}

			However, Morgan revealed in a 2013 interview that ''Breakdown'' was about his break-up with Amy Lee, saying "she was very much an inspiration for that song, but she's also been the inspiration for other songs, as well, which are not quite as current."<ref name="songfacts">{{cite web\|last=MacIntosh\|first=Dan\|title=Shaun Morgan of Seether : Songwriter Interviews\|url=https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/shaun-morgan-of-seether\|work=Songfacts\|date=May 6, 2013}}</ref>

	In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band New EVANESCENCE Album Gets Release Date; Guitarist TROY MCLAWHORN Rejoins Band] - June 13, 2011</ref>		In September 2008, Evanescence's rhythm guitarist since 2007 [[Troy McLawhorn]] joined Seether while Evanescence was on break between albums. He wrote with Seether on the 2011 album ''Holding Onto Strings Better Left to Fray''. He left a couple of months before its release because of "a very personal invasion of trust", and re-joined Evanescence, recording guitar on the band's 2011 [[Evanescence (album)\|self-titled album]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/AmyLeeEV/status/80078426375073792 "YES!! I'm proud to announce that Troy Mclawhorn is back in Ev!"] - Amy's tweet on June 12, 2011</ref><ref>[https://blabbermouth.net/news/new-evanescence-album-gets-release-date-guitarist-troy-mclawhorn-rejoins-band New EVANESCENCE Album Gets Release Date; Guitarist TROY MCLAWHORN Rejoins Band] - June 13, 2011</ref>

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	The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.		The band's origin is South Africa. While still there, the band was called ''Saron Gas''. They changed their name after a request by their new label, [[Wind-Up Records]], to ''Seether'' before releasing their first full-length album, ''Disclaimer''.

			Their song "Hang On" was included in the [[Daredevil Soundtrack\|''Daredevil'' soundtrack]].

	Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.		Seether are known for their collaboration with [[Amy Lee\|Amy]] in [[Broken\|''Broken'']], included in the album ''Disclaimer II''. The song became a hit and increased the album's popularity.

	[[Shaun Morgan]] went to rehab for unspecified reasons in August 2006. His apparent struggle with addictions and how it affected Amy and Shaun's relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]. He now is out of rehab.		[[Shaun Morgan]] went to rehab for unspecified reasons in August 2006. His apparent struggle with addictions and how it affected Amy and Shaun's relationship is the main subject in [[Evanescence]]'s [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']], and their break-up inspired other songs on ''[[The Open Door]]''.<ref name="blender">{{cite news\|last=Eells\|first=Josh\|title=Amy Lee: Back in Black\|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070930190149/http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=2076\|date=October 2006\|work=Blender}}</ref> He now is out of rehab.

	The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' in October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]:		The band released ''Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces'' on October 23, 2007 (October 19 in South Africa). According to Shaun, the album doesn't contain any song in response to [[Call Me When You're Sober\|''Call Me When You're Sober'']]:
	{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}		{{quote\|There isn't necessarily a response as there's a lament. I was bummed out. I was really upset that she would say and do those things. In any relationship, I don't think it's right to say and do those things when people break up, and she obviously felt the need to go out there and make me sound like a complete a--hole. What can I do? I just refuse to lower myself to that level. But it was a painful thing and it got me down — people coming up to me on the street and referring to that song. But I didn't feel the need to write back and be mean.<ref name="Interview">C. Harris. [https://web.archive.org/web/20070819233512/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564949/20070717/seether.jhtml Seether Frontman Won't Respond To Amy Lee's Attack: 'I Just Refuse To Lower Myself To That Level'] - MTV.com</ref>}}

	Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':		Shaun said about the song ''[[Breakdown]]'':